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Posted: Jan 18 2010, 07:44 PM

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I personally don't know how to react. The person concerned sounds highly conflicted.

On the one hand I think he may be reacting to societies prevailing lack of acceptance, unresolved internal homophobia, coupled with multiple failed relationships and prevailing loneliness from being caught in the consumerist ‘dark side’ of the stereotypical 'gay' lifestyle... but on the other hand, is this person just broody and this is the only way he can get children?



What do you think? Sad and messed up, broody and desperate or actually genuine...?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_...icle6990013.ece  
 
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Posted: Jan 18 2010, 07:55 PM

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I'm also in The Times today:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/l...icle6991663.ece  
 
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Posted: Jan 18 2010, 08:02 PM

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I can easily believe that someone can go from mostly gay to mostly straight over their lifetime. There's this novel thing called bisexuality people? ;)

But this guy has some issues, dude.

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I wince when gays describe boyfriends as “husbands”, subverting a solemn institution created to provide stability for child-rearing. Besides, it seems highly perverse that gays should fight for freedom from the bonds of heterosexual morality and then set to copying their oppressors by creating similar contracts of their own.

I was never convinced of my sexuality. True, I never liked football or fighting and I do make a beautifully light Victoria sponge when the need arises. But I shamble like a bloke, I burp and fart without shame and I’ve never really got Barbra Streisand.


Ouch!

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Posted: Jan 18 2010, 08:52 PM

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Sounds like the guy wishes he was straight.  
 
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Posted: Jan 18 2010, 09:23 PM

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that mans a knob.  
 
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Posted: Jan 18 2010, 09:49 PM

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Wanting kids and a "normal" family doesn't make you not gay.

I hope he's happy whatever he does, and it would be nice if he didn't make such ridiculous statements about homosexuality. I also hope that he doesn't get a woman knocked up and then decide to be gay again.  
 
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Posted: Jan 18 2010, 10:04 PM

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i feel sorry for him. it sounds like he's naturally bi, but has mega internalised homophobia. oh well.  
 
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Posted: Jan 18 2010, 10:40 PM

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I read this earlier. I think that words are easy to type, and actions are a very different kettle of fish. May I suggest this sounds a bit like a gay mid life crisis?  
 
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Posted: Jan 18 2010, 11:06 PM

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This comment made on the Times page sums up my feelings:

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Get over yourself dear. Such breathtaking arrogance. I can't see a relationship working with anyone, since your ego commands your undivided attention.


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Posted: Jan 18 2010, 11:55 PM

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It's a bit of a shame that he can't really say the words 'internalised homophobia', 'wanting to be just like everyone else', 'realising that being a good influence on people means more than money' etc.

To be honest though I was a bit like that, just heterophobic and not wanting to participate in this 'being a straight guy's girlfriend with the expectations of all that shit'. He seems to want the exact stuff I don't, fair play, whatever floats your boat, good luck finding someone who will put up with that when they really get to know you.  
 
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Posted: Feb 6 2010, 12:41 PM

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"Gays have children these days, of course they do, and not always to accessorise an outfit."

It didn't seem like he was aware he was writing a public article. Had he wrote in a more formal, fair tone I think the article would have been a good read. To be honest, I think his experiences as a gay man weren't what he wanted - he didn't seem to have a cosmopolitan lifestyle, women didn't fall at his feet, he probably didn't have many of the QAF experiences either.

What annoys me about these articles is that it's another string in the bow for "Gay to Straight" believers. It may even give hope to parents who want to believe their child is going through a phrase. On the other hand, it could work to our favour and show that this person just had a lot of issues.  
 
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